Me thinks he doest protest too much!
He also spelled cancel wrong.
lol, just received this email:.
idiots!
you of weak minds that have chosen to leave the truth!
Me thinks he doest protest too much!
He also spelled cancel wrong.
john barr served in the gb and died in dec 2010 at the age of 97.. in his funeral talk and the accompanying eulogy tract that was printed, is the final sentence:.
"without a doubt, he slept for but a moment in death and has now received his heavenly reward and his father's approval - all he ever wanted!".
given that the new light about being approved and appointed over all things is now a future event linked to the gt trib, was it correct to teach these things about brother barr at his funeral service?.
I have no opinion on this topic, since it's all a load of something stinky... But I do have an observation.
How confused do you think the average JW is, WITHOUT having a way to process these thoughts and beliefs out loud?
Not allowed to question or wonder... I really feel compassion for these poor people. Trapped and alone, and scared to admit it.
i have been waiting for this moment, and it has finally come!
i was actually in the middle of typing in the other thread, about householders who caused you doubts, when a jw rang my doorbell.
my barking german shepherd didnt scare him away, but did knock all his books out of his hand and onto a wet porch, which i really felt bad about.
I just received Steve Hassan's book today. Freedom of Mind.
i have been waiting for this moment, and it has finally come!
i was actually in the middle of typing in the other thread, about householders who caused you doubts, when a jw rang my doorbell.
my barking german shepherd didnt scare him away, but did knock all his books out of his hand and onto a wet porch, which i really felt bad about.
Thank you for your kindness and patience. If I could, I would reach for my JW niece and nephew. My sister is protecting them from me and my kids. She says she has a hard time "explaining" to them. I guess it's hard to explain why Jehovah is going to kill us, because we sing songs about Jesus that aren't in the blessed song book. I'm speculating, of course...
My niece just turned 12, and I think there is a light going off in her mind. They love 75 minutes away, so it's hard to get access to her.
the following is from annointedjw - a website i dislike the more i read from them.
this reeks of total bs to me, but interested if anyone else has heard about this.. the part that gets me, is how the hell they could know what these jw's did or said if they were killed - who witnessed this?
and the other thing that makes me rage is that these guys are martyring these jw's to further their own 'ministry' - very watchtower-like.. opinions?.
This reads like dangerous propaganda to me.
That website is bizarre, but it serves a valuable purpose. It is getting JW's to read things online, beyond the blessed website.
the quotation used in today's wt study about the evil slave "being for all practical purposes, hypothetical", is taken from the net bible and was written by a bible 'scholar' from christendom!.
three points:.
1. jesus always spoke by means of illustrations & parables.. 2. matthew 24:45-47 is a parable!.
I love this forum! You people are wonderful And refreshing.
I can't figure out how to quote from someone else's post, but...
Daniel1555 said: "My exam is the best." That sums it up perfectly. Awesome.
The sheer lack of actual reasoning they make is so alarming, I really some people wake up and start heading for the doors. Wow.
this (overlapping) generation will by no means pass away.
" - matthew 24:34. and (new) scrolls were opened.
" - rev.
@ Bonnie: is this a joke?
i am looking for things i can say in passing, when i meet some of my jw friends.
we used to attend meetings, but have not been officially recognized yet, as apostates.
we were good and curious students, but fell away and were choked out by weeds.. since i will be renewing my bible student status soon, i am hoping this will open more windows into the organization.
That is an interesting approach. I'm afraid my sarcasm would come through... I wish I could pull that off. Haha.
i have been waiting for this moment, and it has finally come!
i was actually in the middle of typing in the other thread, about householders who caused you doubts, when a jw rang my doorbell.
my barking german shepherd didnt scare him away, but did knock all his books out of his hand and onto a wet porch, which i really felt bad about.
Thanks, jgnat. I truly appreciate the sentiments. I agree. Going into a Bible verse battle with a JW, is like throwing ping pong balls at a brick wall. I've been academically preparing myself for months. Only now, am I finally submitting to God to help me do things according to his plan, instead of mine.
I have been praying this week for this man and his family, that God would guide me if I am meant to reach out to him. My prayer is for me to submit to the will of God, because I tend to get all full of confidence and think I have the right answers for someone else.
I have been in preparation for this work for a long time. Since turning our backs on the watchtower, i have kept looking over my shoulder, watching my parents and sister go deeper and deeper, until they've been swallowed by the Borg. Not wanting to be the one to "stumble" them, I let them make their own decisions. All the while, the holy spirit has been working on me, drawing me closer to Christ. My path has had a few curves, but it has led me to this spot.
I've just recently been alerted, that it might be time to reach out to my family. After an episode last fall that effectively divided our entire family into two camps (JW and not), my goal has been to try to narrow this enormous rift. Maybe someday, they will open their eyes and see the bridge that can carry them back across to us. Right now, they are lost in cult think. They are happy to be controlled and have chosen a new family. No grandparents for my kids, since we decided not to become JW's!
Anyway... I guess what I'm trying to say, is the pain that I've gone through is nothing, compared to what my niece and nephew have and will suffer inside the tower. Until about 4 months ago, I felt it was just hopeless. I was "outgunned," since the JW's have so much well-worded literature that provides "evidence" for their beliefs. I had been on my own path to the truth. Suddenly, I realized that I was so busy reaching UP, that I forgot to reach OUT.
I resisted reading anything from apostates for about 3 years, after changing my mind about becoming a JW. They trained me well. When I went to www.jw.org and saw the July 15 magazine, changing their prophecies again, I saw the window had opened. I researched and read, finding some great information and ideas for words to say, along with facts and scriptures to back it up. I've got enough evidence against them now... my heart has been prepared and my mind is finally ready for a conversation with a JW.
In hindsight, I think I might have done TOO well when talking to the JW on my porch. I scared him away. Either i caused a doubt or made him realize he would not have answers to my questions. I showed my hand. I was too eager, and chomping at the bit. I tried so hard to be gentle, and I complimented him on his gentleness, and tried to show him I was concerned for him and my JW family. I went too far. I was too prepared, and didn't want to waste all that preparation for nothing... Hahaha... So he got about 8 of my most pressing questions. Oops. Too many!
I do hope he comes back, and if he did talk to Eric... Maybe Eric will come. Hahahaha yeah I don't think so. Although Eric is more like King Kong, while this other guy was a Care Bear.
wt publications http://www.a2z.org/wtarchive/archive.htm (old).
feeding many.
was the channel that christ used for spiritual.
Wow, very thorough. Thanks.